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Introduction
« on: 02/08/2007 02:39 »
Selamat All;

Just wanted to take a moment to introduce myself. It is likely that I will mostly be a lurker because my life is hectic to say the least...

I am glad to see the Sahabatsilat.com site. I started a similar project many years ago called silatnow! I started it as a webzine for the purposes of exposing the west to more pencak silat rather than silat, and give a perspective beyond the pencak silat Serak found in the U.S.

Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, silatnow! never really got off the ground, there just wasn't enough community interest for such a resource and my personal time just wasn't warranted. Too many takers and not enough givers... I hope that those at sahabat silat will have the energy to finish the race.

Additionally, I had tried to start an organization similar to aopsa but again, no community interest was shown. Maybe I need to shower more often... In any case, Nick, a friend of mine has taken his energy and applied it to that goal and I am thankful for that. Those at sahabatsilat.com also seem to be doing the same thing in a broader way. That's great!

It has long been a frustration of mine that so few seem to have interest in the totality of pencak silat and I am happy to see some of my earlier efforts being expanded and or followed by others, and even more importantly, having some success at doing so.

It is my hope that this will be a place of sharing different ideas and growth rather than what is the norm for many of the forums in existence. I've virtually stopped trying to participate in other forums outside of my own sites, simply because of the attitudes of the participants.

Hormat saya,
Sean

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Hormat saya,
Sean

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #1 on: 02/08/2007 06:44 »
Salam Guru Stark,

I ask everyone here at sahabatsilat to please welcome Guru Stark to the forum.
He has always supported my efforts in promoting Pencak Silat and he is also my Guru Silat here in Florida.  His first hand knowledge of the history of Silat in America far exceeds mine and I think it is a real blessing to have him here.  There
are very few Pencak Silat teachers in the US who are as humble and knowledgeable
as Guru Stark.  Welcome Guru.

Hormat,
Nicholas
The Association of Pencak Silat America - "Promoting Brotherhood Within US Pencak Silat"

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« Reply #2 on: 02/08/2007 07:02 »
Selamat Nick;

Thanks for the introduction. I hope I will have something to contribute and I hope that it will be a fruitful relationship.

Hormat saya,
Sean
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #3 on: 02/08/2007 07:35 »
Selamat Nick;

Thanks for the introduction. I hope I will have something to contribute and I hope that it will be a fruitful relationship.

Hormat saya,
Sean

Selamat datang, Sean....

Thank you for posting here. I think many of us would be interested in knowing more about your PSP.... there used to be a popular dangdut band here back in the 1970s called PSP too...hehehe, just joking.

Please tell us more about PSP. May I ask a question to get us going? Why and how did you formulate your own silat and call it PSP? Have you ever been in a pertempuran? No disrespect don't get me wrong, just curious.

Salam hangat,
Bram
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« Reply #4 on: 02/08/2007 08:46 »
Good to see you here Guru Stark.  Hope all is well with you.

JD

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #5 on: 02/08/2007 08:52 »
Selamat Majapahit (Bram);

Unfortunately your joke is wasted on me. I don't know what a dangdut band is. I still do not have a great grasp of even a little Indonesian.

http://www.combat-silat.net/default.asp?menu=psp
http://www.combat-silat.net/history.asp
http://www.combat-silat.net/history.asp?menu=lineage

These links give details to your questions. I put more out there than should probably be out there, but in any case, it's out there. That's part of why I put the link out there.

I have been in multiple attacker situations (brawls if you will) as an M.P. It was ugly but it makes you think differently. Fortunately, I have not been in one for many years and not since I have been in pencak silat. Though a few years back a three on one situation arose, but rather than pursue violence, I backed down. I couldn't see risking anything that might affect my family.

Regarding the name, my Pamur guru and I talked about the name, what it meant and where I wanted the system to go and he thought it was an acceptable term for the idea.

Additionally, I asked my primary guru-guru silat about creating PSP before hand and I was given permission to do so and to use the materials I was taught. I have also added to them based on my experiences.

Bram, is it a normal Indonesian custom to introduce yourself like this? That has not been my experience amongst my Indonesian friends, and teachers. No disrespect intended, just curious. My experience has been very friendly, very supportive, and very giving. Later, after getting to know me a little is usually when the Main would start.  :)

It could be the internet, but the more I am on forums the less that I actually like them. People seem to act much differently on them for some reason than they do in person, of course it could be my own perceptions too.
Hormat saya,
Sean

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #6 on: 02/08/2007 08:54 »
Selamat Jeff (I assume anyway);

Hope things are well with you as well.

Overall, things are good. Still training. Still Learning. Still Wishing there were more hours in a day.  :)

Hormat saya,
Sean
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #7 on: 02/08/2007 09:08 »
Selamat Majapahit (Bram);

Unfortunately your joke is wasted on me. I don't know what a dangdut band is. I still do not have a great grasp of even a little Indonesian.

http://www.combat-silat.net/default.asp?menu=psp
http://www.combat-silat.net/history.asp
http://www.combat-silat.net/history.asp?menu=lineage

These links give details to your questions. I put more out there than should probably be out there, but in any case, it's out there. That's part of why I put the link out there.

I have been in multiple attacker situations (brawls if you will) as an M.P. It was ugly but it makes you think differently. Fortunately, I have not been in one for many years and not since I have been in pencak silat. Though a few years back a three on one situation arose, but rather than pursue violence, I backed down. I couldn't see risking anything that might affect my family.

Regarding the name, my Pamur guru and I talked about the name, what it meant and where I wanted the system to go and he thought it was an acceptable term for the idea.

Additionally, I asked my primary guru-guru silat about creating PSP before hand and I was given permission to do so and to use the materials I was taught. I have also added to them based on my experiences.

Bram, is it a normal Indonesian custom to introduce yourself like this? That has not been my experience amongst my Indonesian friends, and teachers. No disrespect intended, just curious. My experience has been very friendly, very supportive, and very giving. Later, after getting to know me a little is usually when the Main would start.  :)

It could be the internet, but the more I am on forums the less that I actually like them. People seem to act much differently on them for some reason than they do in person, of course it could be my own perceptions too.

A dangdut band ... is you know that indian influenced Indonesian popular music. Back in the 1970s there was a social-critics band formed by guys in Universitas Indonesia . PSP then standed Pancaran Sinar Petromak...The Shine of a Pressurised Kerosene Lamp - at that time most people had these kind of lamps, electricity was not that common then.

I think it is normal enough to introduce yourself with questions like this... sorry if it sounded rude. Here people are likely to ask you your religion, your marital status and your sex life before they even ask your name. Hehehe. And as you have a website I have 'known' you for a while. Sorry if I seem to be too familiar.

Also apologies once more for looking through your website with a critical eye, but to be honest, the only thing that started my bells ringing was the Pertempuran part - that is why I asked you about combat. So you were an MP (military police - not member of parliament, I gather) - which makes your pertempuran name valid. Otherwise it would sound rather bombastic, wouldn't it. Apart from that I always thought that you had a very good grasp of the adat and adab of silat - no big claims of deadliness and from the beginning,  you state that this system you created yourself. Respect for that,  well done, and,

Salam hormat,

Bram.
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« Reply #8 on: 02/08/2007 09:11 »
Guru Stark,

Yes...it's me.  Just so happens that I'm chatting right now with our mutual 'mercurial' Malaysian friend Saiful Azraq  :D

Tell us some good stories please!

salaam,

Jeff Davidson (JD Tekpi)

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #9 on: 02/08/2007 09:34 »
Guru Stark,

Yes...it's me.  Just so happens that I'm chatting right now with our mutual 'mercurial' Malaysian friend Saiful Azraq  :D

Tell us some good stories please!

salaam,

Jeff Davidson (JD Tekpi)

Hi Jeff!

It is good to see that I have not offended all the American pesilat away from this forum. I have been thinking that I haven't been brushing my teeth enough, but you waste the taste of good meat when you are a cannibal and you brush your teeth [lucu].

Jeff, is it just me, or do you notice anything familiar with the language used by Bram2 and Optimus Prime on this forum?

Bro, you havn't been updating your blog recently... we want more!

What stories does Guru Stark have? Please tell us! And no need to tell us about your sex life... [lucu]

Salam hangat,
Bram
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« Reply #10 on: 02/08/2007 09:37 »
Selamat Bram;

Well, for sure I don't know what I should of Indonesian culture. Though I haven't had that style of introduction before we can certainly chalk it up to cultural differences eh?

Since you know more about me than I do about you, would you be willing to exchange the introduction? I'm open to the marital status questions but since you probably know that, maybe it's not necessary.

Ma'af if I seem a bit jumpy, but I have been attacked from the outset on a few different MA forums by people I wasn't even talking to so I tend to try and cut to it pretty quickly. This saves me from wasting time and breath. ;D

I suppose the Pertempuran could sound bombastic but that may very well be a cultural perspective. I did discuss the name with my guru silat Pamur but that's not to say that I understood all of the Indonesian cultural implications of such a term. As we discussed it, it was meant to mean being able to be combative with many attackers. Perhaps that is not a complete linguistic understanding of the word?

Regarding adat dan adab... Unfortunately, I've made more than a few mistakes concerning adab and adat. Normally not learning until after the fact. The problem of two cultures assuming there is no difference in cultures.  ??? I still know very little but I do my best to seek forgiveness and try to learn whenever and wherever I can.

Terima kasih,
Sean
Hormat saya,
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« Reply #11 on: 02/08/2007 09:40 »
Selamat Jeff

Please say hallo to Nadzrin! He hardly keeps in contact with me anymore. Must be his cool blog   ^:)^

I wish him the best.

Sorry, no good stories here. Only stumbling through another year and wondering how to get to the mountain top.......

Hormat saya,
Sean
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« Reply #12 on: 02/08/2007 09:47 »
Selamat All;

Just an FYI, it's getting a bit late here in FL and tomorrow I leave to go to Des Moines for our groups annual pencak silat training camp. It's a family get together of sorts so I will not be very able to communicate for at least the next 4 or 5 days. It normally takes me awhile to catch up on life after I get back from these things. Don't take it personal.

Anybody who is out there who wants to attend, you can find the info on my blog or on my forum. You're welcome to come. I'll be there regardless. I would love to have some other guru-guru silat come. Last year, Guru Daniel Prasetya came and I enjoyed the opportunity to have him there.

Hormat,
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« Reply #13 on: 02/08/2007 09:57 »
Selamat Bram;

Well, for sure I don't know what I should of Indonesian culture. Though I haven't had that style of introduction before we can certainly chalk it up to cultural differences eh?

Since you know more about me than I do about you, would you be willing to exchange the introduction? I'm open to the marital status questions but since you probably know that, maybe it's not necessary.

Ma'af if I seem a bit jumpy, but I have been attacked from the outset on a few different MA forums by people I wasn't even talking to so I tend to try and cut to it pretty quickly. This saves me from wasting time and breath. ;D

I suppose the Pertempuran could sound bombastic but that may very well be a cultural perspective. I did discuss the name with my guru silat Pamur but that's not to say that I understood all of the Indonesian cultural implications of such a term. As we discussed it, it was meant to mean being able to be combative with many attackers. Perhaps that is not a complete linguistic understanding of the word?

Regarding adat dan adab... Unfortunately, I've made more than a few mistakes concerning adab and adat. Normally not learning until after the fact. The problem of two cultures assuming there is no difference in cultures.  ??? I still know very little but I do my best to seek forgiveness and try to learn whenever and wherever I can.

Terima kasih,
Sean


Hi Sean, my name is Bramantyo Prijosusilo and my experience in silat is very little. My training when I was young was more traditional Jawa poet's path, in Bengkel Teater Rendra, and silat was only a part of that. I worked as a jurnalist / broadcaster for the BBC years back in the UK and here now I occasionally write op-ed peices for The Jakarta Post. I farm organic rice in a village in Ngawi where everyone thinks I am crazy to leave man made chemicals behind but I want to find a paradigm that suits the small land owner in this age. Silat is part of my life as a villager. If you ever come to Indonesia, do come and stay in my house for a while. It is too far away to only day visit, you need at least a week.

I also make paper and bind books from the paper I make. These I sell in a shop in Camden, London, and I sometimes go there too. I got involved in the internet silat scene because I began to make gamelan rehearsals and silat in Camden and posted on a forum called Martial Arts Planet some years back, trying to get pesilat and people interseted in gamelan to come. From there I developed a forum-persona often accused of being anti-Western and the rest... maybe you know already. Mostly the people who accuse me have something to hide though, I found. It is a hard life having this persona with death threats coming all the time ;D

Warmest salaams,
Bram



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« Reply #14 on: 02/08/2007 10:11 »
Selamat Bram;

(For now I'll stick to Bram). At first I thought you might be English by your name, but as I read other posts here that didn't quite seem right. Thank you for clearing that up.

I am happy to hear about your push for organic farming. That seems like it might be an up and coming thing if you can prove it's value. Is Ngawi on Java, near to Jakarta?

I am considering going back next year if I can raise the funds to do it. I'd like to see more systems and perhaps get an introduction to one or two of the systems that I have read about on sahabatsilat.org. Cingkrik Goning for instance. I also have an interest in Jokotole and could certainly use more Pamur training.

What is your system like? If you can easily describe such a thing... perhaps you've already don so elsewhere and I could read about it there.

MAP is one of the forums that I've decided to avoid. There is just too much crap to shovel through to find a horse on that forum....

Hormat saya,
Sean
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