Forum Sahabat Silat
English Version => Pencak Silat General Forum => Topic started by: odim on 17/03/2008 21:52
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Can anybody here lead me to some Silat Sabeni Clips ..just finished the Silat Sabeni article in SahabSilat..Is this style anyway related to Wing Chun..
thanks in advance
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Hi Odim
I don’t know about the video clip, maybe other member of Sahabat Silat have it.
I don’t think Silat Sabeni related to Wing Chun. I’ve seen both arts practiced and performed. Yes, both focused on close quarter fighting, but the way of attacks, the stances, and even the type of the fist is different. Unlike WingChun which used the vertical fist (hit with the last three knuckles), Silat Sabeni use the “Nyontok”-type of fist. Nyontok is a betawi/jakarta expression. I don’t know what this fist is called in English, but they fold the four fingers, open palm, and hit horizontally extremely fast.
I think silat Cikalong looks more similar to WingChun. However, it may be looked the same, but still it’s different. Both Cikalong and Wing Chun put emphasis on sensitivity and feelings. When we talk about sensitivity/feeling, not only between two different system, even between practitioners of the same art, it will be different.
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Hi Odim
I don’t know about the video clip, maybe other member of Sahabat Silat have it.
I don’t think Silat Sabeni related to Wing Chun. I’ve seen both arts practiced and performed. Yes, both focused on close quarter fighting, but the way of attacks, the stances, and even the type of the fist is different. Unlike WingChun which used the vertical fist (hit with the last three knuckles), Silat Sabeni use the “Nyontok”-type of fist. Nyontok is a betawi/jakarta expression. I don’t know what this fist is called in English, but they fold the four fingers, open palm, and hit horizontally extremely fast.
I think silat Cikalong looks more similar to WingChun. However, it may be looked the same, but still it’s different. Both Cikalong and Wing Chun put emphasis on sensitivity and feelings. When we talk about sensitivity/feeling, not only between two different system, even between practitioners of the same art, it will be different.
hi Ery nugroho,
thanks for that great post, do you practice this silat..do S.Sabnei use knees and elbows a lot?can we see the grappling and takedown elements found in other style of silat styles in Silat Sabeni? I been looking for Sabeni videos in youtube ,but no luck at all..
thanks again
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[....S.Sabnei use knees and elbows a lot?can we see the grappling and takedown elements found in other style of silat styles in Silat Sabeni? I been looking for Sabeni videos in youtube ,but no luck at all..
thanks again
Odim, welcome to the forum, have you posted in the meet and greet section?
According to what Sahabats have been saying in the Indonesian section, Sabeni doesn't use feet or legs except to slide - the feet tend not to come off the ground.
Youtube doesn't give a good taste of silat, in fact it can be very misleading, just because most silat practitioners are not familiar with video cameras and uploading vids on the web. Especially here in Indonesia alot of the internet is still very slooooooow.
If you are interested in Sabeni, just get a cheap ticket and fly to Jakarta, in less than a week the Sahabat will set you up with a meeting with a grandson of Mr Sabeni himself.
Warm regards,
Bram.
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hi Ranggalana ,
thanking you for your invitation and help..i love to visit indonesia and it's one of my dreams..Unfortunately my job shedule wont allow me to do it in the near future.Hopefully I will make it one day.
thanks
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Hehehe, you need a job that brings you here! Or easier, shove your job aside for a while ... most Western countries get a month's visa on arrival here and in a month you could get a very good taste of Sabeni and Betawi silat. It is all there in Jakarta, and Sahabat silat has made good networks around the silat world there. If you are in the West now, you would probably save money by living a month in Jakarta ... so don't worry about the job, there is a reccesion coming and many people are going to become redundant anyway!
Warm regards,
Bram
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;D I agree with Mas Bram
btw, I'm not a student of Silat Sabeni. Some member of this forum are students of Bang Izul the grandson of Babe Ali Sabeni.
Good Luck [top]
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Hi,
Mas Bram and Mas Ery, I just wonder if we can create mirror of this post in
Bahasa Indonesia section so any Sabeni student who happens to own such
clip could upload it to youtube?
Of course, considering the obstacles you mentioned... :-[
Youtube doesn't give a good taste of silat, in fact it can be very misleading, just because most silat practitioners are not familiar with video cameras and uploading vids on the web. Especially here in Indonesia alot of the internet is still very slooooooow.
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Finally Silat Sabeni in youtube and multiply
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbUOA0Sxnrs
http://silatsilat.multiply.com/video/item/1
hope you guys will enjoy these
Regards
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Salam kenal semuanya...
Saya anggota baru di forum ini...
Saya sempat baca artikel mengenai pertandingan antara Babe Sabeni dengan petarung dr beladiri lain yang sempat didokumentasikan dalam bentuk film
Saya penasaran jika memang film dokumenter ini masih ada tentunya sangat penting untuk kita jaga jangan sampai hilang atau rusak.
Kalau ada teman yang mau mencari saya ingin sekali ikutan ...
Salam
=HilL=
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@ Bang Tjhombro,
Please search in TVRI or PPFN, the tittle : SABET KOMPENI (SABENI)
Director, producer, and Starring : H. Mardali Syarief
Tabe'
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Gimane kalo kite hunting..
kalo dapet diijinin sama yang berwenang dimasukin ke Video.silat...
Ane beneran penasaran...
kali ajhe tetua2 di FP2STI yang punya channel ke Pak Eddi Nalayapraya bisa minta tolong ke Pak Eddy supaya ini film boleh dipublikasiin...
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dimasukin ke Video.silat...
waahh...
ada video silat juga ?
alamat web-nya dimana yaa?
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Dear All,
Disini saya sebagai HUMAS dari Sabeni Tenabang (Www.sabenitenabang.com)
ingin nimbrung sedikit, untuk dokumentasi video dan aplikasi bisa kunjungi website kami di www.sabenitenabang.com atau bergabung dengan group kami di facebook.
Untuk Filem dokumenter tentang Kong SAbeni waktu itu judulnya adalah "Berkas Tempo doeloe"
Kata Sabet Kompeni diutarakan oleh sutradara sebagai kepanjangan dari kata SAbeni, sebelumnya blm pernah ada istilah Sabet Kompeni untuk SAbeni.
Pemeren Sabeni dalam film tersebut adalah Kong Ali SAbeni