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Alu
Ranggalana:
Michael, Pak Karma there is holding a small alu, but it looks like it has not been used for a long time. The other photo, it looks like the people are holding newly whittled staffs not really alu. The alu was left behind in the agricultural 'Green Revolution' in 1970s and wil never really come back. Now it is only used in remote areas to pound rice.
Sociologically the alu is more of a woman's tool than a man's.
Lumbung ndesa pra tani padha makarya, ayo Yu!
Njukuk alu nata lesung nyandhak lumpang, ayo Kang!
is an old Jawa pop song featuring an alu...
Salam hangat,
Ranggalana
Michael Lee:
Good evening everyone! I was going to modify my previous post, but I see now that someone has replied so I'll simply make another one....
I received an email from Pendekar Sanders telling me that my early post needs to be fleshed out a little bit more.
So here goes....
The name of the stick is called the Halu stick and the system that teaches us to fight with it is called Trumbu (btw, this is not to be confused with the Tremebu (sp?) system from the Banten area which is a complete Silat system in and of itself). Pendekar Surkarma has told us that the Trumbu system comes directly from Embah Kahir. Incidentally, the spelling in Bahasa is Alu, but in Sundanese it's Halu.... at least I'm assuming so because that's how both P. Surkarma and the people of Mas Jud's lineage spell it!
More photos of these people holding the Halu stick can be found here:
http://www.cimande.com/about/masjud/trumbu/index.htm
Photos of the various Silat Players of the Mas Jud / Cimande Combanisi lineage can be found here:
http://www.cimande.com/about/masjud/cilisung/photos_masjud.htm
This brings me to another something I was thinking about....
Does anyone else besides me think it's strange that Bram has started 3 threads in this section devoted to talking about weapons that are uniquely part of the Pukulan Cimande Pusaka system? I can't help but think that he's still up to his same old game of coming after us anyway he can. For the readers who are not up on the history of Bram and Pukulan Cimande Pusaka, Bram has been chasing us around online for almost 3 years. Bram is a highly intelligent man with an encyclopedic knowledge of Indonesian culture and history. But despite this, for some reason, he has not been able to shake his lust for us. He has been coming after us time and time again, on various public internet forums. He has refused all attempts to deal with us directly. Instead, he's opted to repeatedly take the route of public internet engagement only. Indeed, just a few weeks ago, I communicated with him directly in a private discussion that lasted for about 2 weeks. 15 emails were exchanged between us. At every turn, despite all my efforts to keep the discusion positive, he attempted to piggyback off my good will to try and dig up dirt on my teacher, Pendekar Williams Sanders. Finally, having had enough, I told him that he needed to stop the questions if he wished to continue the dialogue with me. I never heard from him again.
Anyways, my point here is that the Halu stick is a part of the PCP system, and that's why Bram created a thread devoted to showing the world that it's not a silat weapon. Bram, you're pissing up a rope on this one my friend because our Trumbu system comes directly from a living Pendekar who is quite eager to talk with anyone who says it's not a fighting tool.
All inqueries as to the authencity of the Halu stick being a weapon and/or the Trumbu system being something that was taught by Embah Kahir can be addressed here:
Jl. He Sukma Km 10, Talang II
Kp. Cimande Nanggoh RT 04/0I
Ds. Lemah Tunur
Kec. Caringin, Bogor 16730
If a trip to the Bogor area is not on your calendar, simply send a letter!
:)
Michael
P.S. Other PCP weapons that don't yet have threads started about them are the Pedang, the Kanching Stick, the Cebang, the Pisau, the Karambit, the Renchong, the Culrit, dirt, and the serong. We can all expect to see Bram start threads about them in the near future.
P.S.S. I apologize to the moderators and forum members for my harshness in this post. I've been silent on these matters for the past few weeks, but it seems increasingly apparent to me that silence = weakness to Bram.
Sabrang kidul:
--- Quote from: Michael Lee on 07/01/2008 10:06 ---
This brings me to another something I was thinking about....
Does anyone else besides me think it's strange that Bram has started 3 threads in this section devoted to talking about weapons that are uniquely part of the Pukulan Cimande Pusaka system?
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Hi Michael,
By unique, are you implying that no other silat system employing or studying these weapons ?
Cheers
O'
dsbasuki:
--- Quote from: Michael Lee on 07/01/2008 10:06 ---...the Pedang, the Kanching Stick, the Cebang, the Pisau, the Karambit, the Renchong, the Culrit, dirt, and the serong.
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Greetings Mike...
If you would not mind, here's the correct spelling for your weapons:
Kanching stick --> Kancing stick (can you show me a pic of this please?)
Cebang --> Cabang or Trisula
Renchong --> Rencong
Culrit --> Clurit
Serong --> Sarung
Salam...
Michael Lee:
--- Quote from: Sabrang kidul on 07/01/2008 10:13 ---
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Hi Michael,
By unique, are you implying that no other silat system employing or studying these weapons ?
Cheers
O'
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Sabrang Kidul! No that's not what I meant... I wrote that post rather quickly and could probably have written that sentence better.
Thanks for pointing that out! I'd modify my post, but then nobody would know what you're talking about. :) I'll leave it as it is, and hope that these words serve as clarification for the public record.
To be clear for the readers who might not know English that well... I did not mean to say that those weapons are unique to PCP. I know that they are included in many other Silat systems.
Thanks again Sabrang Kidul!
@ Dsbasuki... Thank you for the spelling corrections! It's 10:30 on Sunday evening here and I have to get to bed shortly. I did not take the time to check the various spellings so thank you for your input!
Michael
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